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Ownership creates opportunities. And what I love about those opportunities is that those opportunities if. Stewart Well, just as on to your ownership, this is the own a show where we tell stories of how everyday people made ownership theirs. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the own it show. I'm Justin and I'm pleased. Welcome to the show. And I know over the past couple of weeks we've had some pretty heavy hitters on the show and it's been a lot of fun leading into their stories. And today we are just going to continue that pattern and it is going to be a lot of fun to dove into this man story because as he's navigated this world of financial literacy, as he is navigated this world of financial change and financial freedom, in a family's experience, there is nobody that has done it better. There's nobody that's been exposed to the best leaders and ultimately forged his own path. It's something that I think we can all relate to when we could stay in what's safe, we could stay in what's working, we could stay in what has historically proven to do what we want. But stepping out on a limb and taking the calling that has been put on our life and leaning into it with full fervor, nobody has done it better than what this man has done. And so it is a pleasure to introduce everybody to Anthony O'Neal. Anthony, if you or if you haven't been watching Anthony's content on Instagram and YouTube, it is absolute fire. So definitely follow him. That will be in the show notes after. But Anthony, it's a pleasure to have you on. And and I appreciate who you are. Oh, man. Thank you both for having me on. I've been looking forward to this since you and I first met, man. So we would have a good conversation today. Man I'm looking forward to it. Anthony You give I love to see you to give a little bit of the background of of your story, because we know that you were working with Dave Ramsey for a long time and not just working with him, but literally his right hand man leading that that movement and that motion. And in some ways that ministry that he has. And I'd love to hear your story and your journey making that way through. But then also what kind of fell on your heart and what was what led you to kind of step out into your own space and and do what you were really leaning into today? Yeah, man, it's such a good question. You know, it was probably one of the best things that happened for my life, working with such a guru and a general and a general in that space of finances, not even just in finance, is just a decent kind of in general. You know, Dave Ramsey has a heart for the people. He has a heart for the Lord. I mean, he has a heart for finances. And so really, you know, before I met Dave, I was a youth pastor at a megachurch in Jacksonville, Florida, served there for about five years. And I was teaching young people how to, you know, pretty much go to school debt free, how not to take on credit cards and pretty much how to live a well balanced life, but below their means financially. So don't take out a lot of debt. They're below your means. And then I had the opportunity to meet Dave and when he found out what I was doing, I was able to come up beneath him as one of his personalities and continue that message. And I learned a lot of things over those 7 to 8 years. And one of the things that I learned over those years is that I had a real heart and a real passion for millennials and minorities and unfortunately, I couldn't I really couldn't do it as aggressive as I wanted there because I it was a it was a much bigger machine. And so we both to say, you know what? I think that Anthony is it's time it's time for you to go do what God has called you to do. And it was it was a great release from my brother, from my friend Dave to go do what I really believe God has called me to do. But it was it was scary, though, man. I got to be honest to to leave that machine and then to go out on your own with not a thousand people behind you, not speaking to 12 million people all the time. I was like, you know what, God, this has to be you. And because of how much Dave supported the vision, Dave was behind the vision and he gave me his blessings to leave. He called it. It was like a church plant. We're going to plant. Anthony to go do what God has called him to do. And because of that, I felt I felt like, hey, here's my assignment to go be a full time entrepreneur. I meant to go away. And I got to tell you, man, it's been a great it's been a great journey. It's been a fair journey. Nobody's over this last year and a half, but it's been a great experience. So as you've kind of navigated into these boots and got out into it, it's one thing to have a plan. It's one thing to go and say, Hey, this is what I'm going to do. This is how I'm going to navigate this road as you were, as you made that really hard decision to go and step out and be on your own and not have the 12 million people behind you that you had in that built in machine. What did talk me through that first day, that first day of true entertaining entrepreneurship, what was that like for you? To be honest, man, and to be transparent, it was emotional. It was some tears. It was, can I do it? It was, you have to do it. It was God. It has to be all you. Then it was me. Walk in the door crying like, How am I going to do this? Because it's funny, you know, when when you step out on your own, you you have the plan, but you haven't worked the plan. And the problem is, do you know how to work the plan? And so when, when the very first day, I mean, I didn't work at all. I literally called one of my friends, Dr. Dares. Daniels And you've had opportunity to meet him as well and say, Hey, how do how do I do this? How do I as a young man who is kingdom focused, but now entrepreneur driven, not what where do I go? And thankfully, I was surrounded by great men like dairy is, and I won't name anyone else because I want to be respectful with their information. But I was surrounded by great men and great ladies who have been doing this flight 5 to 10 years. And so at the very first day to the very first week, I didn't work at all. I literally was on every phone call, every zoom call. I even flew out to Dallas to sit down with some people, to just pour into me, to just learn, to just listen, to just take notes and to just process everything that's going on. Now we to all it was all game on. Because I had all. I had all the knowledge I had all the wisdom I had all the information and I was like, All right, cool. Now you had to go put it to work. And week two, I just went to running and but I never forget what day one I didn't even get out the bed until like 1:00 that afternoon and my dog was sitting there looking at me like, What's wrong with you? Because I was emotional, man. I was like, Wow, it's really all on me now. And I've never in my life been in that place to where it was all solely on me. But fast forward, you know, almost two years later, I wouldn't change the spot for the world. First off, Anthony, thank you for sharing that with us and for the vulnerability, because that's what that's what makes these episodes really, really powerful, is when our listeners do get to know the real you. Yeah. I want to go back to something you said earlier and you've walked us through it really clear away what week one looked like. And then it was like, Oh, what he said to you. You said something earlier that the last year and a half, two years has been has brought up a lot of fear. And you write like this, even though you received your assignment, you know what your calling is, week one, you're processing everything. You're figuring out. Your plan is going to your executing. It doesn't mean you walk into week two and it's all uphill from there. No, unfortunately, life doesn't work that way. Right, right, right. So because a lot of our listeners are entrepreneurs and go through these highs and lows. Talk us through what some of those have been for you in the last two years. And not only what what the tangible the tangible difficulties are, but how do you get through them. Mm. You know, I think. And if I'm to be honest, I think one of the, the interesting parts for me and y'all guide me wherever you want me to go because I don't know your audience, but you know, I'm a single entrepreneur. You know, I don't I don't have a beautiful wife like my brother here to come home to when things are going down. And, you know, I said the other half is I'm not it's the better half. You know, I don't have the better best half, you know, the best. You know, I'm sad. And so and I'm like for me as a single entrepreneur that impacted my dating life, that impacted and slowed down me actually pursuing the ladies because I was like, Yo, I don't know what this next year is about to look like and I don't want to bring you into something that may just flatline and just stay flat for a while. And so I had to really focus and, you know, seize on those days, man, there are some days I, I just want some feminine energy around me. But I was like, I know if I, if I started dating, I wasn't in a position to emotionally give her what she needed because I was so focused on building, building, building, because I knew that if I don't get up and work, if I don't get up and build, then I'm not going to eat and I got to eat and I have to serve well I to eat. So I really got to eat so I really got to work. And so, you know, for me to get through that meant I got really heavy ingrained with my church. I got really heavy ingrained with the community of people that really helped me accountable to my vision and to my goals. And that's the next thing is you're right. I started off not going up. I started off just like kind of like waves a little bit like nothing. Nothing really shot up, but nothing never dropped tremendously. Like, I was like, all right, cool. I'm getting a little bit I low, low, little high a little low and a little high. And one of my mentors sat down with me and he said, Hey, the reason why you haven't had that that success or you jump up, he said, because you haven't really sat down and wrote out the clear vision for Anthony. You've always had the vision for Anthony with, you know, this church or with this corporation or with this business. But now you are the business. So there needs to be a clear vision for you and this business. So you need to spend some time to write that vision. So I went through this whole vision work, oh, work day. And on this day, man, he was asking me so many questions and I'ma tell you the next day my business didn't shoot up. The next week my business didn't shoot up. But I felt my energy and I felt the environment around me just shoot up because now there was clarity and I never forget about a month after I wrote that vision, man, I mean, partnerships was coming in, brand deals were coming in, income was starting to come in. Income I've never seen in one month. But then three months later, it shot down. What kept me going was my vision. My vision that was attached to my why and the community that I facilitated that helped me to my y into my vision. And that's one thing I recommend to all entrepreneurs is one, get you a clear vision, get you a clear why get you a Y that is so deep that it makes you cry? Because I really do believe that if your why does it make you cry, then the price of commitment to become truly successful will make you cry. And and for me, my vision makes me cry. Me getting married and being able to travel the world whenever I want to travel the world with my wife. I get emotional about that. Me being able to get up and take my kids to school and be a soccer dad and take them to Israel to learn about Jesus and to learn about math. And Israel makes me cry, gets me excited, you know, because I'm like, Wow, this is great. And that vision keeps me going when I do not feel like going, because if I quit, then that means the vision doesn't come to pass. And so the vision in the Y keeps me going, my community kept me going. And here's day two. Y says, Oh, this is so good. We got some good questions. I guess even when everything is going. I remember I had my best month. I've had two amazing months this year. I just blew my mind right. I, I was like, what in the world? But even on those months, my vision, I didn't get comfortable. My vision expanded when I, when I saw what we could do, I said, Oh, wait a minute. Like, I didn't like, Oh, this is good, great. I can relax a little bit. I said, Oh, no, no, no, no, no. This is getting me closer to the vision. I need more months like this. So that way when I do have a low month, my low month is an average. My two years ago, my vision was I keep going, actually expand it now, actually go deeper now and go from there. So I would say for entrepreneurs, get your community, get you a solid while I give you a solid vision. When you hit those lows, man, you're going to be able to keep going. But when you hit your highs, you won't even want to shoot higher. So that way now your lows become not really lows, but just average days, average months. Your words are such gold, but the passion and the energy and the excitement behind it just makes it so much better. Quick question. Would you be willing to share with us what your why is? Yeah, you know, my why is very simple, right? I grew up in a very hardworking family, a hardworking family. I have four parents, so two biological parents and two step parents. And both my fathers served in the military, one in the Army. When the Marines, my stepmother, my other mother doesn't work and my biological mom is the breadwinner of the family. Actually, and she's been serving her same position for the last 20 years. They already say that my mom and my other father never had a wedding, never got they got married but never had a wedding. My mom didn't get a ring until like five years after getting married. They never were it been out of the country. We never did family vacations. As soon as I turned 14, I'm thinking we can go to spring break vacations or family vacations. No. How do we get a job? How do we get a work permit to go get a job to help pay for some things around the house and some of the things that I needed for school? I remember walking around school and I had to push my socks back into my shoes and ask my Teach for Black Duct tape. So I can get through the day so the water won't get into my shoes. We didn't really have I've never been to Disney World. I've never been to Disneyland. I've I've we only did things with my church if the church was doing good, but we didn't have family vacations. And my why is simple. I want to provide a different life for my wife and for my kids that I didn't have. My wife will have a ring, a beautiful ring. My wife will have a paid for wedding. My wife and I will go on a honeymoon and have a honeymoon every single month. My desire is that every month for the first year we get married, that we go on a honeymoon at least one weekend inside the United States. And every quarter for the first year we go out of the country, we're creating a whole atmosphere again. And when we do have kids, I want to be just as active in my kid's life as much as their mother is, because both of my fathers couldn't be as active because they were working hard. And I said, I'm with the opposite. I want to have all the income coming in. So that way when I do have a family, I could be just as active as I want to be and be the best outgoing husband, father and community person in the world. And that's my life. And it's beautiful. It it's so aspirational and inspirational at the same time. And I think the, the, the uniqueness to that is that it's achievable. Anything that anything that we set our mind to, any vision that we put forth, it's not only possible, it's probable. Yeah. Yeah. And it's the fact that we've taken the time in the moment, your vision to create vision to bring it to fruition, to put it to the forefront of our mind so that that can ultimately be what starts forging all of the decisions and the action items that we put into play. There's this there's this analogy that I want to bring forward here and we talk to about why we need to be connected to the vision, because so often we see this and then we, we, we, we talk about this in church on Sunday is if you take a you take a bag of grapes, for example, you take the grapes and you pick this thing up and it's a vine and it's chock full of fruit. It's got all the fruit there. It's hang in there. And we even go back to what you talked about, Anthony. In your great months this year, you reap the fruit of what was on that vine. Yeah, but all of a sudden you eat all the fruit off that harvest there and you're just left with the vine. Vine has no life left. The vine has nothing left. It is garbage. It is trash because it's not connected to the root. It's no longer connected to the root. If you went out into the vineyard and you just pulled grapes off and ate them, they would grow back. There would be more fruit, it would be more to yield. But it requires you to stay connected to the vision, to stay connected to that vine so you can continue to reproduce that fruit and to see it in bigger quantities, in more quantities, more fruitful and more sweet quantities that we talk about. Yeah, that goes back to the vision that you just created. Yeah, yeah, I'm a you're on that one, man. I'm of my passion. I see. I see your passion. Let's go. There. Yeah. Justin's got a lot of passion. He does a lot. Of passion bubbled up in there. But I want to come back to another question for you, Anthony, because there's there's something that you that you mentioned and it's even something that Elise and I, quite frankly, not struggle with, but something that's a very on the forefront of our mind is being emotionally available to be able to produce that type of outcome. I mean, we've got and we've got very similar goals and strategies in our life and how we and how we operate. We just got back from a two week honeymoon. We every quarter we have a weekend that we spend together. Once a year we go on a big trip together. These are things that we have a date night every single week. These are things that we're very, very intentional about. But the uniqueness and even the part, quite frankly, some of the struggle that we have in our relationship, sometimes being entrepreneurs in the same business that are continuing to push and drive forward, is that that emotional availability primarily from myself is not always there because it's you're in the season of push go make that vision come true, but you're also in a deep, loving relationship at the same time. And so I'm curious to for all of our listeners who are in that same boat and being able to now go, hey, single couple, both on the same page, speaking the same language, understanding that vision, understanding entrepreneurship. What is what is your guidance feedback of how to make all of that happen at the same time? And knowing that there's a rhythm that needs to be played. Yeah, you know, some people talk about balance, right? And one thing I've learned, I'm not good at balancing, but I am good at prioritizing. And and I think that for me, I know that I would not be the best business man into I am the best husband possible. And I do believe that once I find my wife, my fave or my best, think that she now becomes my priority more than my business is my priority because my wife is my number one. My wife and my home is my number one business, my number one ministry assignment desk. That's my church. And so for me, I'm teaching myself now because I'll be honest, I'm selfish. I'm selfish. I am. I love my alone time. I when I get done working, like after I get done doing this podcast, if I had a woman, I wouldn't want to talk to her. I'll be honest with you all, because I just got to talking for like three full hours. I, I just need my space is just this. Just just give me my space. And you're listening. You'll be all right. But one thing I've learned from my dad is. Is like, son, that's not acceptable sometimes, you know, you need to be able to set aside how you feel for the betterment of the relationship, and then if your your right partner will understand, well, maybe give a little bit of space, give him a little bit of time, because she will know right when he gets done working. He doesn't want to have a long conversation about how is your day, how are you? Better tell you about my day. He wants to relax. And so what I've learned is I have my boy dairy's Daniels on the podcast here. A couple of weeks ago, he said the pick matters who you pick, who you select to be your partner in life, partner in entrepreneurship, partner and raising your kids with pick matters. So now I am I am selecting like, all right, be wise. I know I have to be emotionally available. I know I have to communicate well, but I also have to meet the woman who understands that I may not be all my A-game all the time when it comes to me being emotionally available. But it's not because of her. It is because of who I am in this present season of my life. And so I've really been in prayer about like, God make me better, make me more open with my emotional side and God, get rid of it. Get rid of this, this, this a little bit. Just a little bit. But get rid of a little bit the selfishness that I do have. So you'll be praying for me on that part because I. Need God that. I'm still working on that and still praying on it. But to become a successful entrepreneur, you have to be selfish a little bit. So I don't want it all gone. But I do want to make sure that, you know, I am emotionally available and I am making sure that I'm over communicating with my not just my wife, but even my family, my loved ones, and make sure that I'm there. You know, it's it's so emotionally aware what you just talked about. There's there's so many men in this world who don't even have a percentage of the awareness that you have. And in creating that type of a of a space for your partner. Yeah, I'm sure there's a bunch of ladies out there listening who's like, Hey, how do I get a hold of this? Well, if I. Was, you know, I mean, that comes in from therapy. I mean, let's be real. You know, I, I mean, I am a kingdom man, but I'm also a therapy man. You know, I, I firmly believe in going to therapy. Therapy. And I remember the last young lady I dated. It didn't go the way that I thought that it could in a first question my therapist asked me was, what? What could you have done better? And we didn't. We never even got to her. It was okay. What could Anthony have done? But what did you learn from that? And what I learned from that is I need to be more emotionally available. And I could be a little selfish because she said issues like you're you're always working she's and I love it because you're successful but I didn't get none of your time and when we talked it was short and I was like, yo, that's that's real. And what is it again? The whole world and and die alone. What is it to build a multimillion dollar business and die alone? And it's all like, yeah, you know what I'm saying is, it's like, whoa, what? What am I doing? And I said, If all I got to do is, is check me and fix these two things. God and therapy and accountability partners. We're fixing it. Yeah, it's. I mean, it's it is so true. And for somebody who myself is a huge therapy fan, I've been in therapy for almost 15 years myself. Wow. It's changed my life. But there's something that you said that's really interesting. You know, I was talking to a woman who had been in a marriage and still was in a marriage at that point for 30 years. And I said, how did you create such a successful marriage to the point where you guys are still in love? Right. There's a lot of couples out there. We're married because it's just what you do, right? And it becomes a thing that you fall out of love, but you wake up, you make a conscious choice every day. And it's just this thing we're meant to do this this thing we're meant to carry on our backs. Right. But she was still in a loving relationship. And she said, I asked, or her answer was, I kept my side of the fence clean. When she went into those therapy sessions, she wasn't focused on what her husband was doing. She was focused on how she could better herself. And her husband had a commitment to the same thing on his side. I just wrote that down. To. Keep your side of the fence clean. Good. Yeah. Wow. I mean, and I think, too, you know, I was looking at my my mom and my dad and asked my dad that some of the questions that men have have it. How has it been? You know, you've been married for 35 years. You haven't cheated. I've never really heard you all argue. I mean, I've seen you all get a little annoyed with each other, but I didn't see no arguments. And we all still love each other. They, they they call each other. My dad could be with me. My mom was going to call him like every our own. Our mom. You just talk to them. I will go. We I hear. Gossip. And I remember that one time I was on a golf course of my dad's team. And how is it how was it you kept mom's attention this long? How is that? She keeps your attention because, you know, this is a grown up. This is a grown folks. So you're married. They married. I mean, my mom and dad still have a great intimacy life. I'm like, how in your sixties they all love you? Other like, dang, you run it home to make love to your wife. That's what was going on. He said, You know what, son? I just focused on loving my wife. And I never forced her to love me. I said, Wait, what? He said, Because if I love my wife, my wife will love me. Then I made sure that I did everything I had to do as a man and as a kingdom man and as a provider. And because of that, my wife then wanted to do everything she needed for me. And he was like, And then when you get married, we'll talk about the other stuff. But you know what? Speaking as a woman, I think that's secretly what every every single woman once did. Wow. Wow. Wow, really. It's it's it's amazing how there's probably a lot of listeners out there right now. They're going, man, this is hitting. This is sticking. I love this. This is good because it's so easy as an entrepreneur to just let things slide, to start to because you're like, I know what my priorities are. I'm working at it. I'm trying to keep everything in check. But there's if we don't have checks and balances, if we don't have a moment to go back and really reflect, if we don't have a moment to really go back and say, hey, am I really prioritizing this? Is there somebody that can be a mirror for me and start to allow me to see where my shortcomings are? And we're not asking for perfection or asking for continual alignment. We're asking for continual understanding because it's easy to win the money game but lose the life game. Oh, and we're not rocking that and we're not living in that. We end up actually losing the game that we want to be playing in the first place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I want to bring us back to something you were talking about before where you leaned into a bit, because I've had this conversation, I literally just got off a phone call with somebody who is, for lack of a better term, they're a performer. They they're on a podcast. They're speaking to people over there on every stage you could ever imagine. They're very public figures, and they're actually going to be absent for the next two weeks going and dealing with a lot of the things that are going on with a mental health side. And a lot of what it came back to was it's like the pressure to perform, the pressure to be in family. The professional, the pressure to be in business, the professional, the pressure to show up for my audience and serve has been so great that it's left me with nothing and so with you being so close to that shift from being with Dave Ramsey and now going and being for Anthony O'Neal and feeling that pressure, how have you been able to deal with that pressure and be able to then facilitate it to be extremely successful? Yeah, yeah. You know, I actually do the same thing similar to what you say your friend is. Before I left Dave, I took two weeks off and I did a sabbatical and I do that actually every year for my birthday or it or sometimes it would be like in the first two weeks of Christmas before Christmas to really get programed for the next year. But I just shifted. Now I want to focus my years on my birthdays. And this past year with this year, 2021 July, I took the actual the whole month off to disconnect and I took the whole month off. Just be honest and transparent because there were a lot of people within my space that were doing some things that I really wanted to do. And I started growing envy. I started look at them saying what I need to be doing that well, how come that person then called me to be on my show or mentioned we should be doing that? I start even pointing fingers at my team. I yell, What are you doing? I want. But they had to step back and realize through therapy, through my accountability partners, that, yo, you're so ingrained into other people's worlds that you've allowed their world to infiltrate your world and it caused pain and to cause distractions and to cause confusion within your world. And so now what I do, honestly, just in is I actually unplug every July. I will unplug two weeks in December, the last two weeks of December. And then I don't look at my feed, but only 20 minutes a day. So now I'm watching how I'm programing my mind. And so I literally consume less of others and consume more of energy that fuels me of where I want to go. One of my friends said that he reads because he doesn't want to be. He doesn't want to be consumed and taken over. So he reads to grow, to evolve, to mature, and so that he doesn't suck. And he was like, Anthony, you should do the same thing. So now what I do is I make sure with the pressure of succeeding, with the pressure of you want high numbers this month, you want high numbers next month. Well, here's true. We're not going to just keep going up, up, up, up, up. We're going to go down and we're going down. We're seeing other people go up, up, up. Wow, we're going down, down, down, down, down. And then it causes this emotional battle and inside. And so what I just trained myself is play your game, live in your world. And when you feel because you're human and when you feel that you're starting to be you, you're starting to consume other people disconnect immediately. And I do that some days. I just I won't even just get on my phone. People will call me. I have 30 minute phone calls on a Saturday because I just want to disconnect because I felt my mind shifting and I cannot afford to shift ever, because God has given me such a great assignment. And so that's what I do, man. And hopefully I help somebody. Yeah. I mean, there's something you said in there, which is consumption, Instagram, binging on Netflix is the new addiction, right? It's no, it's not so much alcohol or pills or whatever it may be the new addiction, without even being aware of it, is how we're consuming in a completely different. Yeah, and I love what you said about being able to stop consuming more of external world and consuming and connecting and turning back inwards. Yes. To be in touch with your own internal world, because at the end of the day, we were put here for a very, very particular reason. We're out there trying to be somebody else and we'll never, ever be able to live truly in alignment with ourselves. So absolutely powerful. Yeah, absolutely madness. You know, and sometimes too, you know, sometimes you have to not sometimes a lot of times this may seem weird, but sometimes I look myself in the mirror and say, you know what? You're doing it. I'm proud of you, because I think sometimes we we consume others and we're like, oh, they're doing it. Oh, wow, they're winning. No, look in your mirror and say, You know what, Anthony? You're winning. And they know what you're doing it. And. You know what you're what you were created to do. Good job. Go away and bro, like, I look in the mirror and I, I'm like, yo let's go did decent I get up and shower and I'm still wet? Well, that's how you got. To put yourself up, because if you don't and if you're always pumping others up on social media, others up in the world, what you should be celebrating other people but never celebrate them more than you actually celebrate and encourage yourself. And that's not a that's not an arrogant thing. You're not saying you're better. But no, sometimes you need to look at yourself and get pumped about yourself because we can do all of that for everyone else, but they miss out on ourselves. And I think I am my number one cheerleader. I know there are some things I've got to work on, but I also know that there are some things that I am good at and that I need to be my number one cheerleader. Because God gave me these gifts. He gave me these talents, he gave me this opportunity. And if he gave it to me, he means that he believes in me. So if he believes in me, I got to believe in me too. And if I believe in me, I'm turn me on. And I think if we can get comfortable in cheering our own selves on often, then it's easier to celebrate others. It really is, man. I feel good. I believe God doesn't even doesn't only believe in us, he actually bets on us. True, he bets on us to be great. And I've actually turned bets into an acronym, IT acronym and he bets on us with our blessings. He bets on us with our energy, he bets on us with our time and he bets on us with our testimony. Because those are the things that connect us in a deep, deep way to people. And people are what mattered to him. People are what matter in this space, and that is who we are meant to serve. And so you're doing it. And when you're continuing to not only know that he's betting on you, you have no choice but to bet on yourself. Yeah, that's so good, man. I'm a take that. I'll give you credit, though. Hello, Anthony. From somebody who's so clearly lives in what we call ownership. And what that means is somebody who is deeply connected to themselves, somebody who is deeply connected to their higher purpose, somebody who is looking to not only better themselves in a physical, but also a mental way, somebody who has a relationship with God. Right. That is a definition of ownership. What would you say in a word or phrase is your definition of ownership opportunities? One where and when you have it, when you have when you have ownership, you have opportunity. You have opportunities to impact the kingdom. You have opportunities to impact people. You have opportunities to impact your family. You have to do the things that you desire to do. You have opportunities to change, like when you own and you have ownership. Ownership creates opportunities. And what I love about those opportunities is that those opportunities if. STEWARD Well, just as on to your ownership, your rights. And so that's when I think about that is is definitely for me opportunities. I'm had the opportunity to love my kid the way that another parent possibly can't love their kid. I'm I have opportunities to love my wife the way that other husbands may not have the opportunity of of loving their their their wife. I'm have opportunities to do things for the kingdom that other people may not have the opportunity to do. And so I get excited about ownership because it just simply provides opportunities. And I love it. So great. Anthony, work in our audience. Find more of you. Many simple keep listening to this podcast. I'm coming here often. That's a you know number two man they can go to Anthony O'Neal dot com is a lot of free content on there teaching you about entrepreneurship financial freedom getting out of debt, starting a small business, starting and building your own brand, my social media, my show information. So Antonio Economist are blessed best place to start because Anthony Dotcom is going to serve you in any area that you are in life. And then after we serve you, we will love for you to come check out some of our content on our shows and stuff. I love it. AUDIENCE As you're listening, that's a man that's on fire. He knows exactly what he leans into. He knows exactly what he's been put here to do, and he's doing it and he's living it and he's an example of it. And so I really encourage you to go seek that out, seek out his content, seek out what he's doing, because it's it's impactful and it's and it's changing the world. And as you leave here, I want to come back to you. I want you to think about what game are you playing? Are you playing your game? Me playing something that someone else's are you owning your game? Are you owning someone or is somebody else's game owning you? And I want you to own your different because as Anthony said, your pick matters. Your pick matters and who you do life with, your pick matters, who you do business with, your pick matters in where you lean into and everything that we do, every pick that we choose and every pick that we lean into determines what fruit we are going to start to be able to bear, determines what fruit we are going to start to produce. And as we start to lean into that, are you looking at your fruit or you looking at somebody else's? Because that will determine whether your fruit is rooted or whether your fruit is rotting. And as we continue to go forward, as we continue to win this, we want to win that. We don't want to just win the winning game. We want to win the life game. And we know that success is different. So own your different and we'll see you guys next week.